I haven't tried this myself as I mentioned, I'm thinking of waiting for a patch, but I thought I'd mention it for those who haven't tried it. I bacame thane by helping 5 citizens and buying the house. The problem is surrendering when you don't have to. I killed all the guards who attacked me first, I took control of the jail by killing all the jailors. I should of been able to finish the quest through brute force, not just turning myself in when it wasn't needed. When I played the Stormcloak line, all I had to do for the Reach was capture that supply train and then it went on to the next Hold.
Didn't have to storm Markath Palace or anything like in Whiterun. So Thonar becomes Jarl anyway if you just capture the supplies? I never went back to the palace after since there was nothign there to do The entrance is found along the canal by the waterfall. You can talk to the guy named Garvey and ask about Weylin. Further conversation will open up the choice to ask for a key to Weylin's room.
He won't give it immediately so you'll have to persuade, bribe or intimidate him. Otherwise, you'll just have to pick the novice lock in Weylin's door. Search the chest inside his room and read the note there. This will also update your objective. If you've kept asking people around, a thug named Dryston will confront you and have a brawl with you as soon as you leave The Warrens. Take this guy out, then interrogate him to know who sent him.
He will cough out that he was sent by a guy named Nepos, who is incidentally the "N" you're looking for. Speak to his attendant and seek an audience by persuading, bribing or intimidating her. Speak to Thonar in his room and interrogate him. After he drives you away, assassins will kill his wife downstairs. He will then come clean and tell you everything he knows. Follow the compass as it leads you to Nepos's House.
His maid will confront you. Ignore her as she turns you down then talk to Nepos himself. After talking to him, the whole household will attack you as you leave the house. Read the note to learn that Weylin truly was not acting alone, and that some anonymous puppet-master named only "N" was directing Weylin's actions. You will now gain the objective "Find out who N is". When you exit the Warrens, a Breton named Dryston will approach you, threatening: "You've been digging around where you don't belong.
It's time you learned a lesson. If you attack Dryston with anything but your fists i. Once you defeat Dryston, he will tell you, "I was sent by Nepos the Nose. The old man hands out the orders. He told me to make sure you didn't get in the way. That's all I know, I swear! That's all I know. You are now directed to find out about Nepos the Nose. You can report back to Eltrys with what you have discovered about Nepos for a leveled gold reward.
Eltrys will be quite surprised that Nepos may be involved, but concedes that he may be getting orders from elsewhere. From here, continue on with your investigation into Thonar.
Following Eltrys' suspicions that Thonar and the Treasury House are involved in this conspiracy should be your next stop. When you enter the venerable financial institution, Rhiada will be at the front desk.
You can ask to see Thonar, which prompts a Speech challenge, or you can just pick the lock on the door to the left of the front desk, bypassing Rhiada altogether. When you enter Thonar's room he doesn't seem alarmed to see you and you may speak to him about Margret, the Forsworn, or the guards that are harassing you. Suddenly, there is a disturbance—Thonar will call out to his wife, Betrid , who has fallen victim to Nana Ildene and Donnel , the supposed cleaning crew for the Treasury House.
Kill Nana Ildene and Donnel, and then express your sympathies to Thonar. He will curse the Forsworn, and then tell you that he has been controlling them by imprisoning their king Madanach. Madanach has now become "out of control", however. The attack on Betrid can be avoided by pickpocketing Thonar's journal without speaking to him.
When you enter Nepos's house his housekeeper, Uaile , will step in to keep you from seeing Nepos. However, she is overruled by Nepos, and he invites you in for a chat. Your dialogue choices all end with Nepos admitting that he is indeed Forsworn. When questioned further he will reveal a strong loyalty to "the King in Rags", Madanach, from whom he gets his orders.
He will give you some history on Madanach's position and political views. Nepos is actually quite verbose in the matter of Madanach, which should by now be making you suspicious. As suspected, Nepos will then inform you that Uaile is actually a Forsworn agent and you won't be getting out of the house alive.
Everyone in the household draws their weapons, including Nepos. After the battle, you can find Nepos' journal where he pours out his remorse for his actions. You can also try to pickpocket Nepos's journal to gather the evidence secretly and avoid the fight. Lingering too long after the theft here will result in everyone becoming hostile.
Return to the shrine of Talos to report back your findings. However, when you arrive Eltrys has been slain by a group of guards, who are now lying in wait for you. Now we have to pin all these recent murders on you. Silence witnesses. Player : "What did you do to Eltrys? We had a nice little deal going between Thonar and Madanach until you and Eltrys started snooping around. Well, you wanted to find the man responsible for those killings? You'll have plenty of time with the King in Rags when you're in Cidhna mine [ sic ].
Player : "You're corrupt. Thonar is paying you. You have a problem with that? Take it up with Madanach. I'm sure the King in rags and his Forsworn would love to meet you.
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